Topic: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

What occupation and stats do you have to select, so that Bastilla realizes that Revan is her father.  This means no kiss.  I got through the game and got the kiss from Bastilla, but it was awkward.  And when she got to Tatooine I thought more of how proud of I'd be if she were my child.

I also have a hunch I should play a scout instead of a scoundrel.

Also, the speed racer missions on Manaan are really hard.

Daniel L Newhouse

Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

Any place to download avatar images from the game?

I'd like to use the visage on row 5 column 3.  I think he looks the most like Bastilla's father. 

https://cdn.gamer-network.net/2015/usgamer/KOTOR-Shot-01.jpg/EG11/resize/608x-1

Last edited by Theon (2018-07-12 05:32:59)

Daniel L Newhouse

Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

I suppose the most important question would be, is there a way to start a character so that you are not considered Revan?  D'oh.

Daniel L Newhouse

Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

Not to my knowledge, I’m pretty sure you’ll always end up being Revan. I mean that is the story they went with.

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The game gets you to play a character who, column 4, row 3, IMO, is Darth Sidious in the movies, and well, the Dark Lord in Tobin's Spirit Guide.   I played as a scoundrel->counselor.

Also, is the name of Bastilla's father ever revealed?

I used Paint3D to crop my avatar, then I downloaded Corel PaintShop to resize.  I had to save as a gif to get the file size small enough.  58 X 60.

Color me purple, but part of this game convinced me that children should be raised in separate households from their parents.

Last edited by Theon (2018-07-16 13:26:54)

Daniel L Newhouse

Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

KOTOR 1 you are always Revan, and was designed that there wasn't all that much set in lore for Revan apart from vague details about defeating the mandalorians and disappearing into unknown space and turning to the dark side.

I think in KOTOR Online they tried to add some canon to Revan, but I've never played it so don't know anything to do with that. Other than I think Revan is supposed to be male.

So yeah, in KOTOR 1 Revan is kind of who you want, but given that you can play it as either male/female I doubt that you could really have been a parent to any of the characters, or indeed really be a character already defined in the lore. But what do I know given that they retconned it?

Edit: Also, didn't Bastilla's father get eaten by what was essentially a dragon?

Last edited by Lilitia (2018-07-22 12:21:07)

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Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

Will there be any funny results if you call your character Marius?

Daniel L Newhouse

Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

I don't think so, so far as I'm aware the game basically ignores your character name except in written interactions, and I'm not sure if any computer interfaces ever recognise your name.

You can always try it and find out. Unless Google knows... Google didn't know when I tried.

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Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

Experiment with it.

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Thank you.  I have another idea - the Sunry trial. I got him convicted two ways.  One is that I went through without any investigation and got him convicted for 500 XP.  Then I tried it again going to the republic holdout and found film of Sunry killing Elassa and finding him guilty for 400 XP.  Nobody liked me doing that.  I think finding film in the republic holdout is unethical - you are a defense attorney finding evidence against your own client on your own side.  The only savings grace I can see, Perry Mason style is to go to the Sith embassy and find what evidence they have, and live with the result.  I really don't remember going to the Sith embassy, although it seams obvious to do so from the GameFaq, along with the hotel where the incident occurred, which I do remember visiting.

I don't really know what happens if you play it this way - I suspect you prove Sunry is a jedi and that Elassa is a Sith, and that, neutral good style, identity takes precedence over law and Sunry the jedi is exonerated due to identity.

Last edited by Theon (2018-08-19 15:24:54)

Daniel L Newhouse

Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

Another argument I've had is the investigation of the murdered settler, Calder Nettic, on Dantooine.  Here's the walkthrough:


Approach the Twi'lek, and he will introduce himself as Bolook, a Jedi from
    the Enclave.  He was sent down here to investigate a killing;
    unfortunately, he doesn't speak the necessary language to interview the
    suspects!  Thus, he asks you to assist him with sorting the truth from the
    lies.  Ask him what you have to do, and he will tell you to simply listen
    to the two suspects' stories.  To assist you, an information droid will be
    provided to check your facts.  Now, I suppose I could tell you exactly what
    happened and exactly what responses you need to give.  However, I feel it's
    a better idea to go through the reasoning process with you.  Besides, it'll
    be more fun this way!

    The first fact you learn is that the three men (two suspects and one
    victim) were out here in the field together, while it was cloudy.  This is
    somewhat strange, as a storm was imminent and most people would normally be
    indoors.  Now, the dead man, Calder Nettic, was shot in the back with a
    blaster rifle.  A rifle was found near his body, stained with blood (which
    has been sent back to the Enclave for testing).  The other two men, Handon
    Guld and Rickard Lusoff, were still at the scene.  While Guld was unarmed,
    Lusoff was carrying a hunting laser.  Another rather strange aspect of the
    case is that both men say that they didn't do anything and that they came
    across the body, but both accuse the other of being the killer.  Finally,
    Guld was found holding his side, while Lusoff was favoring his leg.

    Okay, first things first.  Speak to either of the two suspects - I will
    start with Lusoff.  Ask him what happened, and he will say that he was out
    hunting iriaz.  According to him, he spotted one, but couldn't see very
    well, due to the sun(!) in his eyes.  However, he was still able to hit it,
    so when he walked here to get it, he found Guld standing over the dead
    body.  Speak to him again, then ask him all the questions that you can.
    He'll mention that when he came over to the bridge, the iriaz he shot was
    gone, and that Guld must have taken it.  If you ask about his limp, he'll
    explain that he sprained his ankle running on the way to the body.

    Now, ask Guld what happened.  He'll tell you that he was out here for a
    run, to keep him in shape and because he hates speeders anyway.  When he
    was on the other side of the bridge, he heard a shot coming from over here
    and came running, only to find Nettic dead.  He then says that he saw
    Lusoff come skulking out of the shadows, and immediately hit his emergency
    button and called the Enclave.  Speak to him again and ask him all the
    questions you can, as well.  If you ask him about his side, he'll deny
    being injured at all, and quickly switch the topic back to running.

    Since you've heard both of their stories, go talk to the information droid.
    Ask for information on the body, and you will learn that he was killed
    about three hours ago with a single shot from a blaster.  Ask about the
    plains, and you will learn of the mostly docile iriaz and the more
    aggressive kath hounds.  Because of the hounds, a general advisory was
    made, asking people to carry weapons at all times when out on the plains.

    Speak to Bolook and say that you want to discuss the murder.  He will then
    go through the stories that you just heard, and mention that it is highly
    unlikely that both are completely innocent: at least one of them is lying.
    So which one is it?  Well, you should recall that it was a cloudy day, so
    Lusoff was obviously lying about sun being in his eyes.  Therefore, answer
    "Rickard" and explain about the sun glare.  Now, you need to find a motive
    for the killing, and should interview them both again.

    Ask Lusoff all possible questions about the victim, and you will learn that
    he's known the victim for a long time, and were actually business partners,
    despite the "differences" that they had in the past.  Ask Guld the same
    questions, and you will learn that although he didn't know the victim very
    well, he was glad of that, since Nettic wasn't much of a family man.  In
    addition, Guld had also heard that Nettic was involved in some pretty shady
    business practices.  Finally, speak to the droid again, and you'll learn
    that Nettic and Guld had recently rented a speeder (I thought Guld hated
    them?), and that there had been a violent encounter in a cantina, in which
    Lusoff accused Nettic of cheating him.

    Discuss the murder with Bolook again, and he'll mention that Lusoff said
    that he got along quite well with Nettic.  Of course, we learned of the
    cantina incident, and even Lusoff himself mentioned their past differences.
    Once again, say that Rickard is lying, mentioning the argument over the
    business matters.  Now, you need to focus on the murder weapon.

    Speak to Lusoff and ask about the weapon found by the body.  He'll say that
    he's never seen it before; the victim had a preference for Echani weapons
    and possessed a light blaster rifle that he always used.  You can also push
    the business problem issue with him, but it won't get you very far.  Ask
    Guld the same questions, and he'll say that the blaster was stolen from him
    last week.  Mention the speeder rental, and he will admit that he wanted to
    "punch [Nettic's] face in," as he was cheating with Guld's wife.  In fact,
    they had done so in his own bed, while he was in the next room!  Now, talk
    to the droid once more, then ask about Guld's blaster being stolen.  No
    reports were ever filed, however!  Ask about the weapon found at the scene,
    and you will learn that the blood did not belong the the victim.

    Again, speak to Bolook about the murder, and tell him that the blaster was
    Guld's, who lied about it being stolen.  Now, only one more piece of the
    puzzle remains: whose blood was on the weapon?  Speak to the droid first,
    and ask about the blood sample.  Again, the blood is most certainly not the
    victims - unfortunately, it was contaminated by some bacteria and no
    further testing could be done.  The two suspects won't have anything new to
    say, so discuss the murder with Bolook again.  Tell him that the blood
    doesn't belong to the victim.  So, who does it belong to?  Remember how
    Guld was clutching his side?  Answer that it is Handon's, for that very
    reason.  Bolook will then examine Guld's side, and it indeed appears that
    he has suffered a blaster wound.

    Bolook will then conclude that it was Lusoff who was the murderer, and that
    Guld must have been accidentally hit.  But do you really believe that Guld
    just happened to be out in the middle of nowhere and lied for no good
    reason at all?  Say that BOTH of the men are guilty, with Guld's motive
    being that his wife and Nettic were having an affair.  It appears that both
    men were out here, plotting to kill him.  Guld killed Nettic first, while
    Lusoff, who arrived shortly afterward, though that Guld was Nettic and
    attempted to kill him!  Great work, Sherlock.  You receive a nice bonus of
    1310 XP for a job well done.

Daniel L Newhouse

Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

I think Sunry is supposed to be Marius's father - I think that's why you need to successfully defend him.

I have a hunch, after you exonerate Sunry, do you face him in a lightsaber fight?

Last edited by Theon (2018-08-19 16:51:21)

Daniel L Newhouse

Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

Okay, I must admit I'm confused why you put the entire logic behind the Dantooine murder investigation. Did you have a question or argument to make?

And who says you need to successfully defend Sunry? You go to help him because he's an old friend of Jolee's, who can't believe his friend murdered someone.

IIRC the game makes you go to the Sith embassy to get something for the guy who gets you to the sea floor. But I could be mistaken and there might be another way.

I also have no ethical objections to turning over footage you discover in an investigation proving that your client did it. You don't go seeking for proof he did it, quite the opposite. What I do object to is that if you hand the video over you can't also hand over all the evidence of both sides behaving deplorably (Sith framing, Republic cover up) which I think has a bearing on the whole thing and should have repercussions for them.

Also IIRC you don't have to give them the video just because you have it, you can still using the evidence of the Sith framing him and successfully get him off.

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Alright, what I think you should do is play the game to completion and make a story from what you’ve played and do some personal interpretations with it.

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Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

We do have an entire Fanfic section on this forum... Not to mention there's fanfiction sites too.

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Could get some nice interpretations on there.

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Re: Bastilla as Revan's daughter

Another thing - don't use the purple lightsaber crystal.

Daniel L Newhouse

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Why not? I always use purple crystals, never had an issue.

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How does the purple crystal play into it?

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I feel creepy after using the "purple" crystal.  If they had a "violet" one I'd use it. 

I tried purple because it is worth more and felt I was showing some bling.

Has anyone tried using the name "Emmanuel" as their name?

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